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6wheels
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PostPost subject: Ruling on Cavanaugh Case -(man who rotted to death at ESP)
Posted: 03-28-2009 8:40 am
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You can read the whole case at makethewallstransparent.org
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PostPost subject: Whoops
Posted: 03-29-2009 5:41 pm
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You can read the whole article at www.makethewallstransparent.org
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Posted: 03-29-2009 7:20 pm
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The judge writes in his order:

“…as a matter of common sense, prisoners, as human beings, have the same bodies and suffer from the same medical conditions as the general population.” -- U.S. District Judge Larry Hicks

In response to: Dr. Simone Russo, who has maintained a medical practice since 1983, is not qualified to submit an affidavit because he does not specialize in prison medicine. Here, the judge attempts to give Defendants a clue with the above quote from the order

The judge denied defendants motion to dismiss on the counts of: Deliberate indifference to a serious medical need, which violated Cavanaugh’s 8th amendment right to be free of cruel and unusual punishment, negligent training, supervision and retention of staff, general negligence and conspiracy.

U.S. District Judge Larry Hicks, in an order filed Tuesday in Reno, said the lawsuit filed by survivors of Patrick Cavanaugh can continue against Ely State Prison Warden E.K. McDaniel and six other prison administrators and medical staff.

http://makethewallstransparent.org/?p=1263
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Posted: 03-30-2009 1:21 am
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This is the same website that printed this garbage:

http://makethewallstransparent.org/?p=561
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Posted: 03-30-2009 7:25 am
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Shocked
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Posted: 03-30-2009 8:42 am
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Yes and they posted this today I see,

http://makethewallstransparent.org/?p=1499

Do you think it's garbage too?
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Posted: 03-30-2009 6:45 pm
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There is an update to that story:

http://makethewallstransparent.org/?p=1099

The Department of Justice statistics make the story more credible.
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Posted: 04-01-2009 8:43 pm
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http://makethewallstransparent.org/?p=1622
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PostPost subject: Whatever!!
Posted: 04-04-2009 3:09 am
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Not to sound cold hearted or anything, but he was in for MURDER!!! and I for one am tired of all this Bull about all this. Not that I condone what happened but enough is enough. Close the soap box, and get over it. let the family deal with it. It's none of our concern unless you have family or friends that are immediately affected by what is happening. Oh and LOL at your little propaganda paper. some great fictional short stories about the prisons here in Nevada. Have a nice day Wink
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Posted: 04-04-2009 8:14 am
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Just curious Localboy, but exactly which articles are fictional? Do you have the inside scoop on that because I would really like to know if some of that is not true. How do you know?
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PostPost subject: inside knowledge
Posted: 04-04-2009 3:40 pm
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6wheels wrote:
Just curious Localboy, but exactly which articles are fictional? Do you have the inside scoop on that because I would really like to know if some of that is not true. How do you know?


Well for one thing I worked out there for seven years and dealt with several of the ,I'm using the term inmates because they don't quallify as convicts, personally. I was one of the "pigs" that helped take care of them. Unfortunately Sheff has been charged and found guilty of assualt on officers, as has "money" funchez. I was personally involved in an incident with sheff where he assualted a brand new officer on her first hour of duty. she had no dealings with these inmates before. As for Funchez I also had several dealings with him also. all of them unfortunately were bad. He talks about respect and such but he wouldn't know what hit him if it slapped him in the face. I quit working at the prison because of the high level of stress working around these people.
Don't get me wrong, there are several decent convicts that know they have done something wrong and realize that they have a debt to pay to society, and they are the ones that you never hear about. Several of these gentlemen are even people I would take as friends if they ever get out or approached me and said "hey". To put my credibility on the line, I never recieved any letters of discipline for any dealings with any inmates and several letters of commendation for my quick actions in quelling incidents including sheff trying to "Shank" a brand new officer.
So to answer your question, If that web site was run by an outside organization, and investigated the claims made by the two main posters sheff, and funchez, then I would give the articles some credibility.
I'm sorry if I upset you with my former post, but please no more on Pat Cavinaugh. He was actually a nice guy for a murderer. Peace and God be with all of you.
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Thank you for your reply, LocalBoy. I still don't know what is true and what isn't. I am not sure about Sheff since I think if he would have tried to shank an officer they would have brought charges against him? I mean, one would think so.

As far as Cavanaugh, I don't think we've heard the last of that case and I'm not sure if we ever will. Whether he was "nice" or not doesn't really interest me anyway, as people can be nice to some people and maybe not nice to others, and even if he was not nice to anyone, he still does have rights (or should have).

Good luck to you. I'm glad you got out. It is probably the best thing.
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Posted: 04-04-2009 8:10 pm
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Can you please tell me which story are fictional? As for as researching the stories that come into to the site, we have got collaboration on all stories on that site. There is nothing there I could call fictional. If you are speaking about them and respect that is a personal opinion and not a reason to call what they are saying a lie.

Furthermore, what they did has no bearing on our site, all we do is post what they send in. I don't care what their crime was.

Now as for Mr. Cavanaugh, you will be hearing about him after you are laid six feet under because what happened to that man was nothing but premeditated murder. You speak about these people that you watched over while working at ESP but you don't speak about the people that are free to murder under the color of law.
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PostPost subject: Scheff
Posted: 04-04-2009 8:12 pm
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Because he never actually made contact with the officer, I arrived in time to wrench the shank from his hands, he was never brought up on assualt charges. he was given Disciplinary Segragation (big deal he had 5 years hole time anyway). Thank you for your concern on my getting out in time I happen to agree with you. Prison has a tendancy to make even the officers in to animals to a certain extent, and I was well on my way to losing my humanity by working there.
Yes Cavinaugh did have rights but the policy that was in place ,at the time that I was working there at the prison ,did state that "refusal to comply with verbal orders given by said officer will be viewed as a refusal of any and all items being recieved." this included medically needed perscribed medication. NOW on the other hand his refusing to comply with orders to recieve his insulin and subsiquently going in to sugar shock, should have been classified as a suicide attempt and the proper actions to remove said person from his cell, and forced to take his medicine should have been followed. I for one shortly before he died had no problem in getting Cavinaugh to comply to take his insulin. he was always full of the utmost respect for me. Not to say ,as you said, he could be a pain in the a$$ for other officers.

thanks again for your time 6wheels.
Now little missy as I said, investigate what is sent to you. Most of it is public record as it is a law enforcement agency. I also never made comment on thier crimes. I could care less if they are a chomo or a murderer, some things are just so outlandish that common sence would say "Nah! This is just stupid that 7 officers molested this inmate and not one other person there saw it happen and made a report. That's kind of strange." Trust me.. There are still officers there with some sort of integrity. for every one officer that you hear bad about, there are 10 that still hold thier job in the highest standard, and follow the NRS's.
Thank you for you time also little missy. I appreciate your not bashing me for my commentary as so many people do for what I have to say.
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When I spoke about their crimes, I am speaking of all crimes in and out of prison. We do not run a website like we do to judge people. That is not the purpose of the site. I do want to say though, if he tried to shank and officer would that not be considered assault on an officer with a deadly weapon? I can't see ESP just giving someone hole time for that. That is just my experience with this prison anyway. NO, BEFORE ANYONE SAYS ANYTHING I HAVE NEVER BEEN IN PRISON. I have just been dealing with it long enough to know that some things just have to make sense to me and being that he tried to kill someone and that someone being an officer he would get more than just hole time. I am also sure that E.K. would be happy to release those records, I will call and request them on Monday? Do you think they will mail them out by the end of the week, or could you give me the public establishment that has them and I will call them instead?

Now, something just doesn't make sense about the Cavanaugh case that you are speaking about. He didn't get his meds other than aspirin for THREE years. He died because he had gangrene over his entire body that caused him to rot to death. Anyone knows that if that is left untreated that it will cause you to lose your mind and you can't even remember your name. It's called dementia. He had a power of attorney and they could have got a court order to force his medications on him. After he got as bad as he did, instead of placing him in an outside hospital they allowed him to die a very long painful death. His family is about to get millions off this suit and it could have all been saved for one court order being filed.

I knew which story you were talking about but I wanted to see if you would mention it and you did. I knew you were speaking about the officers. That story has been checked, rechecked and checked again. I am sorry to tell you, but Gregory is a real person, and there is information out there. I, however, have a duty to keep that to myself because we have been asked too. It's hard to believe and believe this before we posted that story, we all thought there was no way that could happen, but, after a great deal of research and other things, we have found that incident has been written up some place, there is a lot more to that little molestation as you would like to call it. I would call it a little more than that. You don't have to believe it Localboy, you don't even have to read it, but it does happen more than you know it does and just not in Nevada either. Why not check out The Department of Justice website for that tidbit of information. www.doj.gov.

I have no reason to bash you, I can sit and talk for hours but just like you, I have my facts and you have yours, which set of facts are true? Yours because you worked there, or mine because I deal with inmates on a daily basis and they are always liars?
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Posted: 04-05-2009 8:10 pm
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Gregory Monroe is a liar and I think he probably has experience writing for penthouse forum letters. You have no clue what you are talking about little missy...I mean no clue. You should do better research.
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truthflies wrote:
Gregory Monroe is a liar and I think he probably has experience writing for penthouse forum letters. You have no clue what you are talking about little missy...I mean no clue. You should do better research.


Who is Gregory Monroe?
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Posted: 04-06-2009 8:55 am
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Anyone who would believe Gregory's story is a fool. Think about it! If you have ever seen the atmosphere, worked in the place, or even were housed there, you know the story is false and that ridiculous tales of 7 men molesting an inmate and urinating on him could not go un-noticed by honest staff and inmates. Imates have 24 hours a day to think of ways to con people. They con the weak minded who would believe their ridiculous stories such as this. They con you to think they dont get fed, they dont get insulin, for what? Generally because people send them money. It is a scam that starts a ficticious line of thinking of what actually occurs behind the walls in a prison.

Cavanough got his insulin. He had gangrene because he lost blood flow to his lower extremities. He lost blood flow because he refused to excersise his legs. He could walk, but refused to get out of his wheelchair. He was also known for hording food and juice to make home made alcohol. He would drink it when it was fermented. What do you think that does to a diabetic? Cavanough died from a condition he refused to treat. "you can lead a horse to water!" When ever something happens that people might not agree with, someones to blame. In this case it is the care takers. Its not the caretakers fault that Cavanough gave up on life in such a painful way.
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ahh, the expert has arrived. "Cavanaugh got his insulin." That is the first time *anyone* has brought up such a ridiculous claim. NDOC's records show that there was an order discontinuing Cavanaugh's medication. The court documents say and NDOC doesn't deny that Cavanaugh didn't have insulin for three years, and even at the end of his life, when there was an order for morphine, the sadistic murdering medical staff didn't give him the morphine.

Go read the Noel report; read the court documents from hundreds of other cases.

Regarding Gregory, I suggest you read your own beloved Department of Justice statistics on sexual abuse in prison BY STAFF. (doj.gov)

I think someone was conned. But I think it was you! Spewing nonsense without even reading is not a real good sign of intelligence.

Oh. About being denied food. The 9th circuit just ruled in favor of an inmate who had been denied food because he didn't follow an order. Look it up...if you know how.
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The stories are so bad that a normal person wouldn't want to believe that any human beings (especially those we pay to uphold the law) would act in such a way. Unfortunately, they do act that way and not just once, but repeatedly.
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One more thing: Cavanaugh refused to exercise his legs? His legs should have been amputated after the denial of insulin caused gangrene. Either you are guilty of this murder and trying to cover yourself or you are just dumb, in which case you can become educated by doing a little reading. I hope the second option is true.
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Another person that think we are fools to believe anything that comes out of an inmates mouth, however the complaints come out of that place faster than the air can get through the vents. I am talking about court cases that have enough merit to them that they are not dismissed. I don't know if you know anything about the law, but you have to evidence to support a claim such as the one from Cavanaugh's family and there was enough for them to go forward with their case. What does that say? Who is lying now? Are you saying the judge that looked at this complaint is lying and conned too?

There is enough evidence coming out of Ely for these court cases, and you think for a second that I am going to believe what you are saying? I mean I have seen copies of kites where they say, "Gonna let you suffer", "Maybe you will expire faster", these are signed by the employee's of the medical department. You can give your song and dance to someone that gives a cr*p what you have to say, but unless you can show me proof like these inmates have, then I am going to conclude it's you that is trying to con me, and not the other way around.

If you read the court order on Cavanaugh, the complaint filed in view of the public you will see that they did not dispute the fact that he didn't get his meds for three years other than asprin. ESP said that. So where are you getting your info?

Now as for Gregory, are you going to try and tell me nothing in that place can't happen like it says in his complaint? Are you really going to make it look like nothing of this nature could ever take place and no one see it? If you are, then I want you to know I have been around long enough, to know you are full of yourself. I'm not going to keep commenting on this, it's out there, you guys seem to really be worried about it and that makes me wonder, if you have something more to hide, too. Why do you really care what we believe about anything an inmates tells us? Could it be that once it out that you feel you need to defend what it is that you have been doing to an inmate too?

What makes me sick is this, it's people like you that would like the general public to think that you couldn't work for a place that treats humans the way you do and walk with your head up once you are out of those gates. You go to church, you go to your friends and the entire time are wearing two faces, the one you show your family and friends, and then the one the inmates get to see. Please, don't think your little two paragraphs is going to change anything, when I have proof of another happening (in black and white with little signatures from the employees not the inmates). What goes on behind the gates of prisons in Nevada is criminal and if it wasn't then why won't they allow federal intervention to come and try and straighten this mess up that the people working for the NDOC has created? What do they have to hide?

As the poster above me said, the expert has arrived, maybe you can save the tax payers all the millions (in this one case) they are getting ready to shed out because of an inmate lying and his family lying, and the court system not reading the evidence but got conned too.
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so your saying that your "kites" could not have possibly been forged by an inmate nor could have the signatures by staff? What staff? If it is true as you believe, then why not put it out there?
Let me guess.....You think OJ is innocent. Even he who beat a criminal trial was still found guilty in a civil. How is that so? Whos telling the truth and who is not. Your side or mine? If you bellieve there is such an enormous problem, what are you doing to help fix it other than complaining about it?
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PostPost subject: Who lies?
Posted: 04-06-2009 10:50 am
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They all lie. The guy with the kidney failure, the guy who had esophogeal cancer, the guy whose spine was crushed, even the woman who got pregnant by a guard. All of them lie. The only people who apparently tell the truth are those who work for the prison. Give us a break now.
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The grievances are all lies, the signatures by Dr. Bannister are lies, the orders by the federal judges are all lies. The only and I repeat only ones who tell the truth are people who work at Ely State Prison.
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